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Modelling => Completed GBs => Group and Themed Builds => "Automatons on Parade" Uninhabited/autonomous vehicles GB => Topic started by: GTX_Admin on December 29, 2022, 02:26:36 AM

Title: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 29, 2022, 02:26:36 AM: A place for your inspiration

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/new%20one/scan0005.jpg)
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: Kerick on December 29, 2022, 05:21:46 AM: I have a bunch of rockety things I could bash together for some whiff launch vehicles.
I also have a partially built “Shuttle C” vehicle I started far too many years ago to think about. It would go with my finish things before starting new stuff plan. Probably too far along to qualify but I’ll post a couple pictures anyway.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52593952005_661602fb2a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o8xKzX)

The pile o' parts.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52593786534_098e1e4e2f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o8wUp1)

About what it should look like. Shuttle C was a proposal to reuse timed out Shuttle main engines and recovered SRBs to launch non-crewed cargo vehicles to the ISS and launch satellites and such things that did not need a crew. Without the weight of shuttle wings, tail and crew compartment much more mass could be launched compared to regular STS launches. This way components that were no longer rated for crewed flight could be used one more time and not sit in a warehouse forever.
Hmmm....... I think I lost my NASA decals. Another trip to Amazon. I need some for my WB-57 build anyway.
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 30, 2022, 01:05:28 AM: :smiley:
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: robunos on December 30, 2022, 01:33:01 AM: What are you using as the 'body' of your Shuttle-C . . . ?
TIA,

cheers,
Robin.
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: Frank3k on December 30, 2022, 04:24:50 AM: Ukrainian Orc eliminator:
(https://imageio.forbes.com/specials-images/imageserve/63a1b30cd0e96ccdb4b9f581/0x0.jpg)
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: The Big Gimper on December 30, 2022, 06:42:43 AM: This is majorly cool Ken!!
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: ChernayaAkula on December 30, 2022, 07:25:38 AM: Quote from: Frank3k on December 30, 2022, 04:24:50 AM
Ukrainian Orc eliminator:

I wonder how difficult it would be to design a laser-guidance kit for drone-dropped RKG-3 grenades with some 3D-printed parts and COTS electronics. Could make them more deadly (hitting weak spots with greater accuracy, more targets per sortie) and more survivable (drones can stay up higher, engagements are shorter).

Same for an airburst proximity fuze for drone-dropped anti-personnel grenades. Would make them much more effective against entrenched infantry.
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: raafif on December 30, 2022, 08:06:22 AM: 1916 RAF "bug" & control equipment.
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: Kerick on December 30, 2022, 08:28:06 AM: Quote from: robunos on December 30, 2022, 01:33:01 AM
What are you using as the 'body' of your Shuttle-C . . . ?
TIA,

cheers,
Robin.

The body is PVC pipe wrapped with ribbed evergreen sheet polystyrene. Polystyrene strips were added to break it up a little. Just a couple extra greeblies too.

Edit: The basic kit was the Revell 1/144th scale Space Shuttle with launch pad.
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: The Big Gimper on December 30, 2022, 08:15:17 PM: A few candidates I have in the stash:

(https://media.defense.gov/2007/Oct/25/2000437686/2000/2000/0/071025-F-1234S-007.JPG)

(https://c8.alamy.com/comp/DYXP7H/teledyne-ryan-uav-drone-rpv-firebee-DYXP7H.jpg)
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: The Big Gimper on December 31, 2022, 01:35:16 AM: I still have one of these (2 kits in the box). Thinking cap is on.

(https://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/skunk/images/skunk_72003_title.jpg)
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: Kerick on December 31, 2022, 02:09:36 PM: Sniper pod and hellfire missiles?
Ukrainian markings?
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 01, 2023, 01:18:57 AM: Some sources of inspiration:

Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft) (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=187.0)
Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UGVs and UGCVs) (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=3380.msg111527#msg111527)
Uninhabited Naval Vessels (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=10392.msg198888#msg198888)
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: jcf on January 01, 2023, 04:05:23 AM: Here's the Ryan types graphic without the Alamy bullshit. Alamy and Getty grab public domain, and copyrighted images,
slap their name on it and claim they own the image and will charge for its use. They're completely unethical scam artists.
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: apophenia on January 01, 2023, 05:36:59 AM: Quote from: jcf on January 01, 2023, 04:05:23 AM
... Alamy and Getty grab public domain, and copyrighted images ... They're completely unethical scam artists.

Backed up by small armies of lawyers who think US law applies globally :P
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: jcf on January 01, 2023, 06:55:20 AM: Quote from: apophenia on January 01, 2023, 05:36:59 AM
Quote from: jcf on January 01, 2023, 04:05:23 AM
... Alamy and Getty grab public domain, and copyrighted images ... They're completely unethical scam artists.

Backed up by small armies of lawyers who think US law applies globally :P

Actually, they primarily use German laws and German law firms.
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: raafif on January 01, 2023, 08:37:53 AM: 1943 TD-1 drone (+500pdr bomb)
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: jcf on January 01, 2023, 09:04:41 AM: That's the Interstate TDR-1, it's competitor was the Naval Aircraft Factory TDN-1.

Molt Taylor of Aerocar fame was the electronics and flight control systems project head on the TDR-1 program.

Here's a crappy photo of Molt flying one of the TDR-1 prototypes over the Philadelphia Navy Yard.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/08/7c/92/087c92413b55698ac9a52a3d69b6c106.jpg)
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: Dr. YoKai on January 03, 2023, 11:24:27 PM: Ground Forces would like a word. ;)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50035436041_cfcce62ef3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jesFVK)DSCF0111 (https://flic.kr/p/2jesFVK) by VileDr.Yo (https://www.flickr.com/photos/46965833@N07/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/2837/12862574603_6bc5aa9fb4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/kAC4iD)20140301_01 (https://flic.kr/p/kAC4iD) by VileDr.Yo (https://www.flickr.com/photos/46965833@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: robunos on January 04, 2023, 12:22:35 AM: OGRE !!

;D . . .

cheers,
Robin.
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: perttime on January 04, 2023, 02:15:14 AM: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/39/R2-D2_Droid.png)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R2-D2
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: jcf on January 26, 2023, 03:49:54 AM: Unmanned F-15 used as a launch platform for a big missile:
https://media.defense.gov/2023/Jan/18/2003146117/-1/-1/1/FLASHBACK_F-15%20GSE.PDF
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: Kerick on January 26, 2023, 07:19:51 AM: Quote from: Frank3k on December 30, 2022, 04:24:50 AM
Ukrainian Orc eliminator:
(https://imageio.forbes.com/specials-images/imageserve/63a1b30cd0e96ccdb4b9f581/0x0.jpg)

Could a drone lift an RPG warhead? Drop that on n the top of a T-72!
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: Frank3k on January 26, 2023, 09:14:34 AM: Some of the newer drones the Ukrainians are using can drop something like an RPG warhead, or multiple grenades. The smaller drones use VOG-17 grenades (used in 30mm grenade launchers) with 3D printed fins. In most situations, the grenade causes minor concussion and often survivable shrapnel wounds, if you get treated and evacuated promptly. It's particularly effective in Ukraine thanks to the lack of medical equipment and training given to the average Russian "soldier"... once injured, they do not get medical treatment or evac.
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: Story on January 28, 2023, 10:33:47 PM: 2019

In October, Russia's Scientific Production Association "Android engineering" presented it's newest platform, Marker, designed to be used with robotic technologies. A contingent of multifunctional robotic machines capable of solving combat tasks may be created in Russia by 2025, a source in the defence industry has told Russian media.

https://sputniknews.com/20191123/russia-to-create-contingent-of-combat-robots-by-2025---reports-1077383093.html (https://sputniknews.com/20191123/russia-to-create-contingent-of-combat-robots-by-2025---reports-1077383093.html)

February 2021 -
Russia’s cutting edge Marker robotic combat platform will be given an upgrade so it can test the next generation of robots for the Ministry of Defense, Russian Foundation for Advanced Research Projects CEO Andrei Grigoriyev announced.
Resembling a miniature tank with treads and turrets, the Marker is a robotic platform that provides a springboard for the development of other robotic technologies.
https://www.thedefensepost.com/2021/02/12/russia-upgrades-marker-robotic-platform/ (https://www.thedefensepost.com/2021/02/12/russia-upgrades-marker-robotic-platform/)

The future is now
Russian "Marker" combat robots will be deployed to the front lines of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Russian state media reported on Sunday.
The combat robotic platform will undergo a "baptism of fire" on the battlefields of the Donbas region of Eastern Ukraine, Dmitry Rogozin, the head of the "Tsar Wolves" military advisor group, announced on his Telegram account.

Rogozin, the former head of the Russian space agency Roscosmos, added that the "Marker" combat robot "works autonomously" to perform combat missions, as well as locating targets from a distance of around 9.3 miles, according to state news agency TASS. The combat robot can also pinpoint and fire upon enemy targets "in the affected area with its own fire weapons," Rogozin wrote.
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-marker-combat-robot-ukraine-1773878 (https://www.newsweek.com/russia-marker-combat-robot-ukraine-1773878)

Looks like it comes in tracked (BMP1 suspension?) and six wheeled flavors.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=marker+robot+tank (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=marker+robot+tank)
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: jcf on January 29, 2023, 05:24:07 AM: ;D ;D ;D

Sure they are. ;D

Kremlin propaganda never freakin' changes regardless of who holds the reins.
Tsars, Bolsheviks or gangster capitalists it's all the same.
:icon_fsm:
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: Kerick on January 29, 2023, 05:53:02 AM: How is this thing supposed to tell the difference between military or civilian people? That I would have to see.
Probably just a tin can on tracks. Wait until an Abrams or a Leopard puts a round through it.
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: Old Wombat on January 29, 2023, 09:46:30 PM: It looks like a slightly more modern version of a Loyd carrier. ::)
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: Story on January 30, 2023, 03:11:33 AM: US developed Autonomous Tank/Antitank vehicles

https://breakingdefense.com/2020/11/meet-the-armys-future-family-of-robot-tanks-rcv/

(https://sites.breakingmedia.com/uploads/sites/3/2019/10/RCV-Light-Medium-Heavy-spectrum-2-768x576.png)
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: Frank3k on January 30, 2023, 03:39:24 AM: Quote
Rogozin, the former head of the Russian space agency

Former owner of a bellend as well, since it was blown off at his birthday party.
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: Story on February 03, 2023, 06:01:18 AM: From the Leopard 1 and 2 thread down in Land Inspiration, stumbled upon this -

RVTs are high-mobility radio controlled vehicles designed to dodge enemy missile or tank gun fire, that's why they called Raketen Versuchsträger.
Post 124
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/german-casemate-tanks.820/page-4#post-498322 (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/german-casemate-tanks.820/page-4#post-498322)

The truncated M41 hull is pretty neat.
(https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/data/attachments/203/203600-fe82524d98a0f0b53ac9b6ca9563402d.jpg)
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 04, 2023, 12:24:07 AM: :smiley:
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: Story on February 28, 2023, 01:22:25 PM: December, 1940

(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/e0/ee/f8/e0eef82dfa9e5c7156600aa39976c43c.jpg)
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: Frank3k on February 28, 2023, 11:54:56 PM: I love the Robot Television Bomber! Why does it hate television, though? Or is it intended to knock out Robot Television?
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: Story on March 01, 2023, 12:20:49 AM: Quote from: Frank3k on February 28, 2023, 11:54:56 PM
I love the Robot Television Bomber! Why does it hate television, though? Or is it intended to knock out Robot Television?

Then-nascent television was the only sensor they had back then, I reckon.

See also https://airandspace.si.edu/stories/editorial/remembering-death-lt-joe-kennedy-jr-and-americas-first-combat-drones

Note the 1940 B17 behind the TV drone.
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: LemonJello on March 01, 2023, 02:10:46 AM: Quote from: Frank3k on February 28, 2023, 11:54:56 PM
I love the Robot Television Bomber! Why does it hate television, though? Or is it intended to knock out Robot Television?

I assumed that it was dropping televisions onto America's enemies!?!
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on March 01, 2023, 03:23:20 AM: New BAE Systems UCAV announced yesterday - here at Avalon:

https://dtrsupplements.partica.online/defence-technology-review-supplement/dtr-strix-special-supplement/flipbook/1/ (https://dtrsupplements.partica.online/defence-technology-review-supplement/dtr-strix-special-supplement/flipbook/1/)

https://www.baesystems.com/en-aus/strix (https://www.baesystems.com/en-aus/strix)

Looks a bit like something one of us would have created.
Title: Re: Uninhabited and computer driven inspiration
Post by: Frank3k on March 01, 2023, 03:32:44 AM: The address at the top of the Robot ~~Monster~~ Television Bomber is in the hills, between Bel Air and Beverly Glen. The address at the bottom is not far from the La Brea tar pits. Roughly 8 miles - probably within range of the TV bomber.