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Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« on: January 05, 2012, 09:37:23 AM »
Whilst trawling the web for some info, I came upon this pic which I thought I'd share.

http://www.mycity-military.com/slika.php?slika=2705_53826587_JAS-39%20Gripen%20for%20India-1.jpg

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2012, 09:42:34 AM »
Is looking formidable !

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2012, 09:47:44 AM »
Some more Indian Gripen renderings:






Definitely Whiff fodder now given India is selecting between the Typhoon and Rafale for its next fighter.

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2012, 01:07:07 PM »
No comment necessary:

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2012, 08:02:19 PM »
No comment necessary:




That's plenty cool with the addition of the IRST ball alone never mind carrier capability.

I've always felt that Gripen lacked something in the fearsom factor by having only one engine.
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2012, 02:25:46 AM »
found online:

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2012, 02:29:32 AM »
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2012, 06:47:07 AM »
what are the things trailing behind the wingtips?
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2012, 07:12:56 AM »
what are the things trailing behind the wingtips?

Towed decoys.
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2012, 03:48:31 PM »
« Last Edit: May 19, 2013, 12:38:10 PM by GTX_Admin »
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2013, 03:46:37 PM »
And possibly, a decent 1:48 kit is coming.   
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2013, 05:12:46 AM »
Speaking of Brazil...






Story here regarding moves to interest Brazil in the Sea Gripen
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2013, 09:49:51 AM »
Yep.  See here:




Not sure why but your images don't show up for me, Greg...

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2013, 12:17:25 PM »
Yep.  See here:




Not sure why but your images don't show up for me, Greg...


No images or hyperlink. ???

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2013, 12:38:53 PM »
Try now... ;)
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2013, 02:25:37 PM »
Much better, thank you! :)

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2013, 03:02:25 PM »
I guess when you are making models to sell your airplane anything less than pristine is a no go!  ;) 
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2013, 02:56:51 AM »
While usually going outside the borders of my own nation for inspiration,  a US DACM Gripen in some sort of desert scheme would be cool.
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2013, 04:19:44 PM »
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2013, 04:29:54 PM »
Surprised well that turned out.  Looks meant for USAF markings and is on ADC duty  :)

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2013, 02:41:25 AM »
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2013, 02:57:20 AM »
I did one of those many moons ago.



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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2013, 03:05:02 AM »
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2013, 07:51:37 AM »
I did one of those many moons ago.

Nice work Logan. That looks so right!
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2013, 04:10:31 AM »
I always liked the original renderings of the Gripen before it entered service:

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2013, 05:31:41 AM »
i have an image somewhere in an Air Forces Monthly issue from 2000 with an Alternative gripen configuration.
a more conventional look with an F-107 style intake.

if i get into my archive, maybe sunday, i can look it up and scan it in  8)
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2013, 05:44:38 AM »
That would be this one I assume:



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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2013, 11:39:03 AM »
Oh wow  :-*
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« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2013, 04:10:32 PM »
I always liked the original renderings of the Gripen before it entered service:
Not too far from reality...


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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2013, 02:24:25 AM »
Interesting...I didn't think they had put any operational ones in the classic splinter scheme.
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« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2013, 02:29:18 AM »
I think they did that just for the retirement.
There was a thread on it ... somewhere ..., and my recollection is that it was done to celebrate the last days before retiring the older model.

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2013, 03:56:18 AM »


Another one with some better light  :)
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #32 on: July 07, 2013, 09:33:41 AM »
The Gripen has long formed a pivotal part of my continuingly evolving alternate ADF.  It is pressed into a variety of roles across all three services being the primary mount of the RAAF flying reserve, the RAN FAA and Army Tactical Aviation.  It serves as the LIFT for all three services as well as a carrier trainer, is the mainstay of ARDU (Fanta Can) and the mount of the Roulettes.

It replaces a variety of types, some in service for decades, the oldest being the Folland Gnat to newest the Northrop F-20.  Others replaced include F-5A/B, F-5E/F, Jaguar, A-10, CAC CA-31 depending on the version of the alternate.

Lots of nice schemes are possible, the Insignia Blue and White RAN FAA trainer would look great.

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #33 on: July 07, 2013, 04:22:44 PM »
the Insignia Blue and White RAN FAA trainer would look great.

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2013, 06:07:09 AM »
Subtle:

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2013, 12:54:59 AM »
Seems like someone has been reading the forum:  Boeing And Saab To Propose Gripen For T-X
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2013, 08:35:41 AM »
^ Most interesting!  :D If the Air Force can get some Gripen trainers, how about a couple more Gripens for the Navy and the Marines? Their F-5E/N/Fs could use a modern replacement. And, damn, would a Gripen look gorgeous in those colours!  :-*
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2013, 03:48:50 PM »
Did you read the update on the second page?

Update: On Sept. 12, Lennart Sindahl, Saab´s execuctive vice president and head of Saab’s Business Area Aeronautics, sought to clarify the company’s position regarding a potential teaming arrangement with Boeing on the T-X program using a Gripen derivative.

“With the new development of the Gripen E version we expect it to remain in that position for many years to come. But a great fighter aircraft does not necessarily make a good trainer. We remain focused on the continued development of the Gripen E and the fighter will never be a trainer,” Sindahl says. “As we stated previously, Saab always keeps its doors open to new business opportunities and if any of those should be further realized, they would be announced at the appropriate time.”

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2013, 07:59:53 PM »
Did you read the update on the second page?

Update: On Sept. 12, Lennart Sindahl, Saab´s execuctive vice president and head of Saab’s Business Area Aeronautics, sought to clarify the company’s position regarding a potential teaming arrangement with Boeing on the T-X program using a Gripen derivative.

“With the new development of the Gripen E version we expect it to remain in that position for many years to come. But a great fighter aircraft does not necessarily make a good trainer. We remain focused on the continued development of the Gripen E and the fighter will never be a trainer,” Sindahl says. “As we stated previously, Saab always keeps its doors open to new business opportunities and if any of those should be further realized, they would be announced at the appropriate time.”

Iiiiffffffff.......that goes ahead I could see the Gripen (probably renamed Boeing Griffin) also replacing many ANG F-16 and F-15 aircraft, possibly also any combat types likely to be dropped due to sequestration, i.e A-10 in addition to the planned T-38 replacement.  A carrier based supersonic trainer that also goes on to replace some Hornets, oh of course it would be exported to Australia to replace the Hawk..... ;D

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2013, 09:00:44 PM »
Finland to replace the Hornet.
(and once the Hawks run out of hours, Finland gets Pilatus PC-21 as advanced trainer)

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2013, 09:53:54 PM »
USAF (or USArmy >:D) version to replace the A-10 fitted with a Oerlikon KCA cannon in an enlarged blister under the fuselage

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2013, 10:16:07 AM »
Random idea:  Nigerian Gripen in this scheme:

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #42 on: September 25, 2013, 12:48:55 PM »
Random idea:  Nigerian Gripen in this scheme:



That doesn't look too different from the Australian Army Aviation scheme....

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2014, 02:15:09 AM »
A mini EF-111/Prowler for small countries.
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« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2014, 03:59:14 AM »
A mini EF-111/Prowler for small countries.

Use the two seat version and some of the systems from the Growler
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #45 on: February 02, 2014, 09:16:00 AM »
Random idea:  Nigerian Gripen in this scheme:



That doesn't look too different from the Australian Army Aviation scheme....


Very similar.  Reduce the dark green in area and replace it with black and you'd have a reasonable match.  The other two colours are quite close (and that just might be a case of the screen image being out chromatically).

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #46 on: February 02, 2014, 11:51:29 AM »
Mmmm...... Australian Army Aviation has a fixed wing tactical strike and reconnaissance regiment?  Currently operating Jaguars but planning to transition to JAS39E and F by 2020 as the F-35B chosen by the RAN for the FAA was to expensive.

Just need to work out a back story on the forces creation and evolution from WWII onwards. ;)

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #47 on: September 10, 2014, 10:37:38 AM »
A pair I just stumbled across when reading about Saab's push to market the Gripen to Indonesia:


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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #48 on: May 03, 2015, 05:26:03 AM »
UCAV version anyone:

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #49 on: September 27, 2015, 01:07:16 PM »


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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #50 on: September 28, 2015, 08:26:04 AM »
Similar to my old profile.



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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #51 on: September 29, 2015, 01:50:14 AM »
Similar to my old profile. <...>

When I saw the pic Greg posted, I immediately thought of your profile.  :) Looking at it closer, there is a difference, though. Your Gripen sports a genuine Ukrainian Flanker splinter scheme, while the camo in Greg's pic actually seems to be inspired by Swedish "Viggen camo", just in Ukrainian colours.
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #52 on: September 29, 2015, 02:38:46 AM »
I agree. It looks like it was mostly a color swap.

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #53 on: December 16, 2016, 04:16:31 AM »

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #54 on: April 03, 2017, 02:37:11 AM »
Another for Project 2107:

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #55 on: December 01, 2017, 11:19:05 AM »
That would be this one I assume:






Hi Greg, I can not download these images. Can you post them in a different way or send them to me by PM or email?

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #56 on: December 02, 2017, 03:52:18 AM »
Hi Greg, I can not download these images. Can you post them in a different way or send them to me by PM or email?

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #57 on: December 02, 2017, 08:44:42 AM »
Hi Greg, I can not download these images. Can you post them in a different way or send them to me by PM or email?

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Please, sir!  Please, sir!   Can I have some as well, sir?   ;)

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #58 on: December 03, 2017, 01:36:03 AM »
Rather than emailing them around, I have attached them to this post - that should make it possible for people to view/download as required.
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #59 on: December 03, 2017, 08:49:18 AM »
Thanks, Greg.

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #60 on: December 03, 2017, 10:33:51 AM »
Hi Greg, do you have the coloured profile marked 217?

Anyway, thanks a lot.

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #61 on: December 03, 2017, 04:15:10 PM »
This one?


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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #62 on: June 16, 2018, 01:01:20 AM »
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #63 on: June 22, 2018, 01:22:51 PM »
This one?

Oh, this looks very cool!!

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #64 on: November 14, 2018, 02:27:38 AM »
Armenian Gripen anyone?

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Armenia Could Purchase Swedish Multirole Fighter Aircraft
(Source: Pan-Armenian Net; posted Nov 12, 2018)
Armenia’s possible acquisition JAS-39 Gripen fighter aircraft manufactured by the Swedish aerospace company Saab is currently under discussion, the Defense Ministry told PanARMENIAN.Net

According to the Ministry, Armenia is also considering the purchase of fighter jets produced in other countries in order to create a multifunctional air force.

Regnum reported earlier that Sweden has proposed Armenia to buy its multirole fighter aircraft.

Kommersant, meanwhile, said in June that Russia could ship 12 Su-30SM fighters to Armenia until 2024.

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #65 on: November 27, 2018, 03:31:43 AM »


2nd Gripen E test flight
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #66 on: March 04, 2020, 08:32:32 PM »
Some wishful Gripen-ing ....



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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #67 on: March 05, 2020, 02:42:56 AM »
Only if Canada wants a sub-optimal solution...
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #68 on: March 05, 2020, 06:29:23 AM »
Canada's choice just got a little more difficult, reading in the F-35 thread over on SPF, it says the projected cost of an F-35 in 2022 would be the same as an F-18E/F.

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #69 on: March 05, 2020, 07:13:00 AM »
Canada's choice just got a little more difficult, reading in the F-35 thread over on SPF, it says the projected cost of an F-35 in 2022 would be the same as an F-18E/F.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hmmm, a production line in full operation vs. one that's trickling along, has a limited future and came close
to being shutdown in 2017. 
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #70 on: March 05, 2020, 07:44:50 AM »
Canada's choice just got a little more difficult, reading in the F-35 thread over on SPF, it says the projected cost of an F-35 in 2022 would be the same as an F-18E/F.

hell F-35A is $77.9 million flyaway as of the last batch. Just for some contrast the Gripen E is "about 85 million" according to Saab in 2016. For Canada in terms off full up costs its always been cheaper than super hornet, Thanks to botched "interim fiasco" the public got to see that for full effect.



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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #71 on: March 05, 2020, 07:52:04 AM »
Canada's choice just got a little more difficult, reading in the F-35 thread over on SPF, it says the projected cost of an F-35 in 2022 would be the same as an F-18E/F.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hmmm, a production line in full operation vs. one that's trickling along, has a limited future and came close
to being shutdown in 2017. 
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Go figure.
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yup, the choice might get made for them, the USN navy got their last batch, I Finland is in the air and Kuwait has an order (no idea where they are on that) but now that the USN is calling it quits, that's the beginning of the end for the Super Bug line. wait a few years and that option may not be available, certainly will cost more if it is as well.
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #72 on: March 08, 2020, 10:22:25 PM »
Canada's choice just got a little more difficult, reading in the F-35 thread over on SPF, it says the projected cost of an F-35 in 2022 would be the same as an F-18E/F.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hmmm, a production line in full operation vs. one that's trickling along, has a limited future and came close
to being shutdown in 2017. 
;D
Go figure.
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yup, the choice might get made for them, the USN navy got their last batch, I Finland is in the air and Kuwait has an order (no idea where they are on that) but now that the USN is calling it quits, that's the beginning of the end for the Super Bug line. wait a few years and that option may not be available, certainly will cost more if it is as well.

That's cool they can buy Australia's second hand supers then.

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #73 on: March 09, 2020, 03:05:46 AM »
That's cool they can buy Australia's second hand supers then.

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #74 on: March 09, 2020, 10:45:11 AM »
the way we leak information to our adversaries, I'd be surprised if the USA let us buy F-35. Unless its a dumbed down version.

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #75 on: March 09, 2020, 01:53:28 PM »
... I'd be surprised if the USA let us buy F-35. Unless its a dumbed down version.
I recal the word was that they'd let Finland build or assemble F-35 - but wouldn't reveal how it works.

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #76 on: March 10, 2020, 10:16:26 AM »

That's cool they can buy Australia's second hand supers then.

I would have said that was crazy at one point but the way the RAAF legacy hornets are flying off the shelf lately...  ;D
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #77 on: March 10, 2020, 06:15:42 PM »
If memory serves me correctly the sale of ex RAAF Hornets to Canada was first mooted in the late 80s / early 90s, before the end of the cold war. 

The story was that the Canadian Fleet was suffering higher attrition (or fatigue) than expected and they required additional airframes to maintain capability, with the still in production Australian F/A-18A/B being seen as the best option.  The idea was the aircraft would be transferred from existing RAAF stocks with Australian production being extended and perhaps switching to C/D models to replace the aircraft supplied to Canada.


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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #78 on: March 11, 2020, 02:24:00 AM »

That's cool they can buy Australia's second hand supers then.

I would have said that was crazy at one point but the way the RAAF legacy hornets are flying off the shelf lately...  ;D

The RAAF Super Hornets will be in service until the 2030s and the Growlers possibly the 2040s
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #79 on: March 20, 2020, 05:50:38 AM »
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #80 on: April 10, 2020, 03:10:25 AM »
In the early 1990s, Germany was wanting a cheaper Eurofighter and even talked about a single engined version or getting out of the program altogether.  What if this did occur and thus we had something such as a German Saab Gripen?
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #81 on: April 10, 2020, 11:09:18 PM »
Always thought Europe was a bit silly developing aircraft in the same class as each other, generation after generation.  Ideally they would have shared the best each developed in each generation.

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #82 on: April 11, 2020, 12:41:42 AM »
Always thought Europe was a bit silly developing aircraft in the same class as each other, generation after generation.  Ideally they would have shared the best each developed in each generation.

Europe has never really been a unified entity. Different countries have had different ideas about what they REALLY want from the aircraft. Just from basic geography Germany and Sweden would have different primary needs. And then you have countries wanting carrier capability.

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #83 on: April 11, 2020, 07:45:23 AM »
In the early 1990s, Germany was wanting a cheaper Eurofighter and even talked about a single edge version or getting out of the program altogether.  What if this did occur and thus we had something such as a German Saab Gripen?

Interesting idea.  :smiley:

Always thought Europe was a bit silly developing aircraft in the same class as each other, generation after generation.  Ideally they would have shared the best each developed in each generation.

What? And the decent, hard-working taxpayer of country X should line the pockets of the lazy *insert-generic-stereotype* in country Z?  :o Surely you jest!   ;)
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #84 on: September 16, 2020, 02:51:43 AM »
Some inspiration (click for bigger):









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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #85 on: September 16, 2020, 07:38:19 AM »
First Gripen to accumulate more than 3,000 flight hours, I think.
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #86 on: September 17, 2020, 01:22:51 AM »
Yep
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #87 on: September 27, 2020, 01:51:42 AM »
Possibility if Germany had pulled out of the Eurofighter Typhoon program in the '90s:

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #88 on: September 28, 2020, 03:16:09 AM »
One that just made so much sense:



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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #89 on: March 02, 2022, 08:36:38 PM »
No Canard Gripen


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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #90 on: March 02, 2022, 08:37:38 PM »
Swedish Hornet  -  Gripen on steroids


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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #91 on: March 03, 2022, 01:10:57 AM »
No Canard Gripen



Somewhat of a JF-17 look to it.
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #92 on: March 25, 2023, 03:57:19 PM »
In early drawings of Gripen tailfin is like this.