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Re: ASW helicopters
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2013, 08:28:32 PM »
Off the top of my head, I think the Mexican and possibly Spanish navies used the MD500 ASW. It's certainly useful for a small ship (and a damn sight better than nothing), but it's really close to an old-style "manned-DASH" type machine. The mother ship would work up the initial contact and the MD500 would then go and drop a torpedo on it. The difference between the MD and say, a Wasp, is that the MD could localise the contact a bit more precisely using it's MAD bird, thus making it less likely that the torpedo would be wasted by being dropped outside limits. The MD also has a radar, but that's really more relevent for non-ASW missions.

Alouette IIIs have been used on board ships, and IIRC, there are some FACs (Bahraini?) that can carry a Bo-105. I don't know how much ASW gear either of them carries though.
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Re: ASW helicopters
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2013, 09:48:55 PM »
Just had a Merlin HM.1 fly over my house (twice in fact) for the 1st time. Had Chinooks, Lynxes and a Merlin HC.3 but never a HM.1 'til now. Spooky!

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Re: ASW helicopters
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2013, 04:48:07 AM »
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Re: ASW helicopters
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2013, 05:24:09 AM »
Just had a Merlin HM.1 fly over my house (twice in fact) for the 1st time. Had Chinooks, Lynxes and a Merlin HC.3 but never a HM.1 'til now. Spooky!
you live either in the north east or south west?

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Re: ASW helicopters
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2013, 07:00:40 AM »
Just had a Merlin HM.1 fly over my house (twice in fact) for the 1st time. Had Chinooks, Lynxes and a Merlin HC.3 but never a HM.1 'til now. Spooky!

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Re: ASW helicopters
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2013, 10:21:29 AM »
Just had a Merlin HM.1 fly over my house (twice in fact) for the 1st time. Had Chinooks, Lynxes and a Merlin HC.3 but never a HM.1 'til now. Spooky!
you live either in the north east or south west?

Southwest.

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Re: ASW helicopters
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2013, 11:36:31 AM »
Don't be concerned...the helicopter is just part of your friendly BTS Moderation team doing their job...
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Re: ASW helicopters
« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2013, 11:58:22 AM »
You should only be concerned when the helos get closer, drop into a hover, the door slides open, a fast rope appears, and..........

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Re: ASW helicopters
« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2013, 04:29:47 PM »
Just had a Merlin HM.1 fly over my house (twice in fact) for the 1st time. Had Chinooks, Lynxes and a Merlin HC.3 but never a HM.1 'til now. Spooky!
you live either in the north east or south west?

Southwest.

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Re: ASW helicopters
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2013, 12:09:49 AM »
I think the Wildcat, much as I LOVE it, never should have been developed either (and for the same reason)......   More importantly, it's just a modification of a successful civilian helicopter, not a dedicated military airframe like the Lynx and Seasprite.  It doesn't need to stand on its naval helicopter merits alone to survive.

Doesn't the Wildcat also have an army programme to piggy-back on?  Granted it's still a dedicated military airframe.

When I learned that South Koreans are flying their Lynx off, of all ships in the world, Gearing class...... wonderful.  Almost made me wish there was no Sino-Soviet split......
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Re: ASW helicopters
« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2014, 05:02:50 AM »
Realistically, if you don't want Merlin then the only options are NFH-90 or the SH-60F (or presumably the WS-70 equivalent).

Is the WS-70 still powered with T700, or is there a non-American engine option available?
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Re: ASW helicopters
« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2014, 05:08:58 AM »
I believe it is still the T700.  One could probably adapt it to have the Rolls-Royce Turbomeca RTM322 though.
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Re: ASW helicopters
« Reply #37 on: September 11, 2014, 05:42:19 AM »
I believe it is still the T700.  One could probably adapt it to have the Rolls-Royce Turbomeca RTM322 though.

I see......

I'm unfamiliar with the folded-up size of the NH-90; I am under the impression that one NFH might fit into a hangar repurposed from housing two Seahawks.  Am I having a safe assumption, or am I better off running with the idea of RTM322-powered WS-70 (whether because NH-90 is still too big, two choppers are always better than just one, or any other reason)?
« Last Edit: September 11, 2014, 05:47:14 AM by dy031101 »
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Re: ASW helicopters
« Reply #38 on: September 11, 2014, 05:52:45 AM »
This will probably help in your assessment:


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Offline dy031101

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Re: ASW helicopters
« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2017, 02:24:45 PM »
Top: Bell 608
Mid: Bo-105
Bottom: LAMPS II candidates: Lynx, UH-1N, and SH-2

The Bell 608 and the Americanized Bo-105 are meant for, IIRC, the LASH programme, which seemed to be essentially a manned successor to the QH-50 DASH.
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Re: ASW helicopters
« Reply #40 on: December 14, 2017, 06:11:47 PM »
Whatever the latest Helix is, perhaps with a mix of British and Russian equipment?

If anyone was going to do this, I thought it would have been the Indian Navy!!

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Re: ASW helicopters
« Reply #41 on: December 14, 2017, 06:25:21 PM »
Smallest platform? Well, what if the DASH program had been pusued with the same....stubborness as
 the Osprey?

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyrodyne_QH-50_DASH


One would think with the miniaturisation of electronics, small & light turboshaft engines, communication equipment, GPS.......that  modern DASH concept would have to both work and be reliable!

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Re: ASW helicopters
« Reply #42 on: December 14, 2017, 08:57:20 PM »
theres a really nice 72 scale QH.50 Dash available on Shapeways  8)

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Re: ASW helicopters
« Reply #43 on: December 15, 2017, 06:47:56 AM »
I have no idea if this one has flown or is just a mockup.  I've seen Fennecs flying with a radar, but never torpedoes.
« Last Edit: December 15, 2017, 07:48:54 AM by dy031101 »
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