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Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« on: May 06, 2012, 05:20:43 AM »
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A thread for your Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration.



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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2012, 05:24:06 AM »
To start with, how about some re-engining:


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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2012, 05:24:53 AM »
Maybe add a turret:

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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2012, 05:25:43 AM »
Or let's assume it stayed in service and got updated:

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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2012, 05:26:45 AM »
Carrier version ! RN Whirlwinds' vs. Bismarck.

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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2012, 05:29:42 AM »
Oh yeah!!!
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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2012, 03:14:43 AM »
Westland's design for a Halford engined 'jet Whirlwind' ...

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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2012, 03:16:43 AM »
Hypothetical model of a post war 'Whirlwind float racer' ...

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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2012, 01:15:26 PM »
I always thought the Whirlwind would be a very logical reccon platform. It would certainly have room for some good camera gear in that nose and fuselage.

Get some Merlins or Griffons into her, stretch the wings a tad and paint her PRU blue or pink and Bob's your uncle!
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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2012, 08:33:46 PM »
Done a few variations on the theme over the years:






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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2012, 11:19:08 PM »

Two nice profiles made by Mark Jones (BBC) ...






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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2014, 10:30:13 PM »

1/48th Westland Whirlwind. Even I want one of these ....... maybe more, I'd like to see what is would look like with Griffons.


It would've looked like a Westland Welkin ---   

Which was called the Whirlwind Development Fighter until it got a name change for service use.

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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2014, 09:55:42 AM »
Perhaps a short-wing Welkin?

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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2014, 03:00:20 PM »
I believe the proposed navalised Whirlwind was to have been powered with Merlins.

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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2014, 03:27:32 PM »
I believe the proposed navalised Whirlwind was to have been powered with Merlins.
Perfect candidate for a brace of Bristol Centaurus I would think :)
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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2014, 10:43:22 PM »
Perhaps a short-wing Welkin?

Yes --

An article I've read said that the Welkin would only go so fast, no matter how much power was applied.  This was attributed to the thick short-chord wing but Westland' had a solution.  Which was to increase the chord by 20%.  I bought an extra CMR Welkin Mk.II to do just that.  One day I'll get around to building it --  :-X

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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2014, 10:46:13 PM »
I believe the proposed navalised Whirlwind was to have been powered with Merlins.
Perfect candidate for a brace of Bristol Centaurus I would think :)

I would say not on a Whirlwind for either engine, airframe is much too small. BTW,  I've got a couple of books on Westland and I've not found anything related to a navalized Whirlwind --

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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2014, 01:26:28 AM »
The Whirlwind's Peregrine's only put out 885 hp so you could get more power for less weight, at the cost of more drag, by fitting late model Perseus radials. This would have been idea for the ground attack role the Whirlwind was actually doing, since air-cooled radials are less vulnerable to small calibre hits on the cooling system than water-cooled engines.
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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2014, 02:33:08 AM »
I believe the proposed navalised Whirlwind was to have been powered with Merlins.
Perfect candidate for a brace of Bristol Centaurus I would think :)

I would say not on a Whirlwind for either engine, airframe is much too small. BTW,  I've got a couple of books on Westland and I've not found anything related to a navalized Whirlwind --

Another reason why the Whirlwind wouldn't be considered for a Naval aircraft, the whole fuselage aft of the cockpit was made from magnezium alloy.  At the time of the Whirlwind concept, magnezium was a non-strategic material

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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2014, 03:41:53 AM »
I believe the proposed navalised Whirlwind was to have been powered with Merlins.
Perfect candidate for a brace of Bristol Centaurus I would think :)


May I suggest…

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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2014, 03:48:37 AM »
Some pics I came across a while back of different armament trials for the Westland Whirlwind:

12 x 0.303:



1 x 37mm cannon:




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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2014, 03:51:59 AM »
And if you are really keen:  http://www.whirlwindfighterproject.org
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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2014, 05:00:15 AM »
That 37 mm cannon nose is availabe in resin to convert the Airfix Whirlwind.
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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2014, 05:47:22 AM »
Or let's assume it stayed in service and got updated:
Some are convinced that the Whirlwind could have handled Merlins. Griffons might take pretty serious updating  ???

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Re: Westland Whirlwind Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2014, 05:50:23 AM »
I think we need to move some of the latest replys in the 'Trumpeter' thread to here  ---- Mod's - please