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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #100 on: May 21, 2023, 03:38:57 PM »
Nice find GTX!
Also, great suggestion elmayerle

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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #101 on: June 10, 2023, 08:44:43 PM »
Something that's been on my to-do list since forever is a trio of 'advanced' Meteor prototypes as displayed at an air show where Gloster are desperately trying to flog them having lost the RAF night-fighter contract to the DH.110:

Gloster Reaper ground attack aircraft

Airfix Mk.8 with belly tank removed, tip tanks fitted, bomb pylons under fuselage, NF.11 outer wings (8 x guns!), non-British rocket pods on outer wing pylons, green/brown/gray 'European' cammo, but glossy with civilian registration G-REAP and company logos.

An old one of mine

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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #102 on: June 11, 2023, 01:07:36 AM »
The Mamba Meteor would need a tall undercarriage.  ;D
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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #103 on: June 12, 2023, 02:21:37 AM »
I know the RCAF tested the meteor, but never took it.

I wonder how the Meteor would look with a series of Orenda engines on it.

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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #104 on: June 12, 2023, 03:51:58 AM »
I know the RCAF tested the meteor, but never took it...

That testing was done on behalf of the RAF. The RAF Meteors had been sent to Canada for cold weather testing. These were Meteor F.3 EE311 (Aug 1945-June 1946, crashed); Meteor F.3 EE361 (April 1946-March 1947); Meteor F.4 RA421 (Oct 1947; WEE Feb-Nov 1948); and Meteor F.4 VT196 (July 1953-June 1955).

There was never any plan to purchase the 'Meatbox' for the RCAF. The only Meteors with maple leaves were T.7s WA730 and WA740 which were RAF aircraft loaned to RCAF 421 Squadron when based in the UK during 1950 (421 was preparing to return to Canada at the end of 1951 where they would take on Canadair Sabres at RCAF Station St. Hubert).

... I wonder how the Meteor would look with a series of Orenda engines on it.

I guess the closest was Meteor F.4 VT196 which tested reheat systems for Avro Canada/Orenda from January 1954. For an actual Orenda-powered Meteor, the big challenge would be the length of that engine (121.5 inches versus 88.5 inches for the Derwent V). The Orenda was actually an inch smaller in diameter but sources also show it being almost twice the dry weight of the Derwent (although I suspect that the Derwent V weight is sans aux. equipment).
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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #105 on: September 03, 2023, 02:21:47 AM »
What about a Meteor fitted with pulse jets...even as a trial?
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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #106 on: September 03, 2023, 03:11:42 AM »
What about a Meteor fitted with pulse jets...even as a trial?

Sure, if you want a slower Meteor with a shorter range.  ;D
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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #107 on: September 03, 2023, 03:32:48 AM »
I was thinking more of a trials aircraft.
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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #108 on: October 10, 2023, 08:03:35 AM »
I know the RCAF tested the meteor, but never took it.

I wonder how the Meteor would look with a series of Orenda engines on it.
Considering the size of the Orenda engine, you could go with an underslung engine installation like that of the MetroVic-powered prototype.

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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #109 on: February 13, 2024, 07:37:10 PM »
RAAF Meteor with a different tail (I love Canberra tail :-*)


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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #110 on: February 13, 2024, 07:45:29 PM »
RAAF Meteor with a different tail (I love Canberra tail :-*)



Nice! Very nice!!

From what I heard and read about the weak design/construction of the real world Meteor rear fuselage-tail design, I think you could have averted a lot of Meteor losses 🤔

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« Last Edit: March 09, 2024, 12:44:52 PM by M.A.D »

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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #111 on: February 14, 2024, 10:58:01 AM »
RAAF Meteor with a different tail (I love Canberra tail :-*)



Nice! Very nice!!

From what I heard and read about the weak design/construction of the real world Meteor tail design, I think you could have averted a lot of Neteor losses 🤔

MAD

It certainly looks better, at least to me.