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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #75 on: September 11, 2017, 12:30:45 PM »
I do hope they at least put generous radii on the corners of the windows.  Pressurization and square windows with tight corners do not mix, as early Comets demonstrated.

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #77 on: March 23, 2019, 03:14:38 AM »
Fixed landing gear version - possibly trousered similar to this:

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #78 on: March 23, 2019, 10:17:54 AM »
Other than a brief comment I made early on, I haven't seen this mentioned here:  https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,7869.0/all.html.  Just think if the Soviets had been aware of this and evolved a similar Li-2 conversion.

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #79 on: March 24, 2019, 01:48:21 AM »
Other than a brief comment I made early on, I haven't seen this mentioned here:  https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,7869.0/all.html.  Just think if the Soviets had been aware of this and evolved a similar Li-2 conversion.

What in particular?  A DC-3 bomber? 

Re the Soviet and a similar Li-2 conversion, doesn't the thread you linked mention (with photos) a Li-2 bomber version?
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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #80 on: March 24, 2019, 02:46:02 AM »
Yeah, but the Soviets don't seem to have gone for the same degree of "tweaking" that Fokker played with here.

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #81 on: March 24, 2019, 02:55:32 AM »
Fair enough.  Of course, another whiff would be a Soviet B-18.

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #82 on: March 24, 2019, 11:56:20 AM »
But developed from a DC-3/Li-2 instead of a DC-2?

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #83 on: March 25, 2019, 01:16:34 AM »
Maybe or perhaps just a straight purchase/lend-lease?  Either way, just in Soviet scheme.  If only there was a 1/48 kit...
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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #84 on: March 25, 2019, 04:49:08 AM »
Perhaps a "B-18B" with the fuselage stretched the same amount as the DC-2 fuselage was lengthened over that of the DC-2 and with DC-3 outboard wing panels.  Either as a licensed DC-3 derivative or direct lend/lease.

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #85 on: June 11, 2019, 07:13:17 PM »
Found on Facebook.



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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #86 on: June 11, 2019, 09:08:33 PM »
What was the Russian DC-3 look alike that had tri-gear?

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #87 on: June 11, 2019, 09:30:39 PM »
Are you thinking of the Ilyushin Il-14 (NATO reporting name: Crate) ?

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #88 on: June 11, 2019, 11:10:23 PM »
Yes! thanks Carl -   :smiley: 

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #91 on: June 13, 2019, 01:58:01 AM »
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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #92 on: June 13, 2019, 02:24:22 AM »
IIRC, there's a resin company who makes the Allison V-1710 conversion for the B-17. I think that would work just right here.

EDIT: 2C Mods is the company but it's 1/48 scale.
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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #93 on: June 13, 2019, 02:25:12 AM »
Reminds me a bit of the Tamco Turbo Commuter mentioned earlier:



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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #94 on: June 13, 2019, 02:50:26 AM »
IIRC, there's a resin company who makes the Allison V-1710 conversion for the B-17. I think that would work just right here.

EDIT: 2C Mods is the company but it's 1/48 scale.

Yep, this one:



There was also this one, though I have heard bad things about it:



Resin2detail also supposedly have a conversion coming in 1/48:





I'm not aware of any in 1/72.  What you might consider though would be a  Rolls-Royce Merlin powered version using something like this as the donor:

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #95 on: June 13, 2019, 02:57:33 AM »
Speaking further to the Tamco Turbo Commuter, there is this conversion available that could be useful:




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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #96 on: June 13, 2019, 03:00:07 AM »
Other turbo Dak options:




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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #97 on: June 13, 2019, 04:16:09 AM »
Definitely stay far away from that Rebellion Models XB-38 conversion set.  Having made the mistake of purchasing two sets sight unseen from that guy (he lives in Las Vegas, NV) and realizing it was a bad decision after receiving the two sets and inspecting the contents.  There was nothing in the set that could be mated up with any other half thanks to the misshapened and mismatched castings which was compounded by insufficient resin with some parts and an overabundance of resin on others.  The propeller spinners would have served better as headlights on a car model as there was no flat surface or indications for drilling to attach the propeller blades.  Even Igor does a better job of casting and that is saying a lot. 
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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #98 on: June 13, 2019, 06:36:09 AM »
On his Facebook page, Brian said a 1/72 XB-38 conversion would also be made available. No date given however..
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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #99 on: October 10, 2019, 02:38:17 AM »
An idea triggered by Eric's creation here:  http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=4100.new#new:  The Shōwa L2D and Nakajima L2D were license-built versions of the Douglas DC-3:



The Soviet Union also produced the DC-3 under license as the Lisunov Li-2.

What if Germany also received a license to produce the DC-3 in the '30s?  Perhaps as a simpler alternate to the Focke-Wulf Fw 206?  Production then continues into the war instead of the Ju52...



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