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Current and Finished Projects => Profiles and Pixels => Topic started by: Chickadee on July 10, 2017, 01:30:56 PM

Title: Chickadee's Hypothetical Profile Musings
Post by: Chickadee on July 10, 2017, 01:30:56 PM
I've just started creating profiles, here are a few speculative schemes for the Hercules and Islander ... I'd appreciate your feedback - these are the first ones I've done (be kind, lol)

1. Lockheed C.130K Hercules C.1, in SPECULATIVE RAF. Transport Command scheme
2. Lockheed LC.130 Hercules in FICTIONAL RAF./British Antarctic Survey scheme
3. Britten Norman Islander, in FICTIONAL RAF./British Antarctic Survey scheme
4. Lockheed C.130K Hercules C.1, in SPECULATIVE RAF. Transport Command scheme (with rockets)


With thanks to TsrJoe for his research, help and encouragement.
Title: Re: New Aircraft Profiles, please give me your opinion
Post by: AXOR on July 10, 2017, 05:38:34 PM
First profiles???
Wooow,looks fantastic,I like them all!
Title: Re: New Aircraft Profiles, please give me your opinion
Post by: signal on July 10, 2017, 09:12:21 PM
  Wonderful. Thank you.
Title: Re: New Aircraft Profiles, please give me your opinion
Post by: Logan Hartke on July 10, 2017, 10:39:24 PM
Great start! When I was first starting off, there was a mistake that I was making that took me a little while to correct. The lighting on the tail needs to be completely different than lighting on a fuselage, because the tail is so thin. The best way someone described it to me when I was doing the lighting was that it looked like someone had stuck a straw in the tail like a Capri Sun packet and inflated it. Here's an example of what I'm talking about:

(http://pre07.deviantart.net/51ce/th/pre/f/2013/092/7/1/japanese_hitachi_a9he1_herman__heinkel_he_100__by_comradeloganov-d609ezj.png) (http://comradeloganov.deviantart.com/art/Japanese-Hitachi-A9He1-Herman-Heinkel-He-100-363236383)

Look at the tail. This is an old, bad profile with an inflat-o-tail. Whereas...

(http://pre00.deviantart.net/db09/th/pre/f/2014/240/6/e/nakajima_a9he1_n_wade_floatplane___aleutians_by_comradeloganov-d7x2dfe.png) (http://comradeloganov.deviantart.com/art/Nakajima-A9He1-N-Wade-Floatplane-Aleutians-478801274)

...this one has a much slimmer "blade" tail.

Cheers,

Logan

Title: Re: New Aircraft Profiles, please give me your opinion
Post by: apophenia on July 11, 2017, 02:40:08 AM
Logan: Great tip.

Chickadee:  Excellent handle, BTW  :D  Love the Transport Command flash schemes ... but those stand-out BAS schemes have an unfair advantage  ;)
Title: Re: New Aircraft Profiles, please give me your opinion
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 11, 2017, 03:06:10 AM
 :)
Title: Re: New Aircraft Profiles, please give me your opinion
Post by: Chickadee on July 11, 2017, 04:12:57 AM
Thanks for your advice and comments so far.  I appreciate the feedback, Logan, thank you for the tips, I take it that it's illustrator you use?  Is it gradients or blends you used on the profiles?
Title: Re: New Aircraft Profiles, please give me your opinion
Post by: Chickadee on July 11, 2017, 04:21:06 AM
A few more for this scheme..

1. Lockheed LC.130 Hercules in FICTIONAL RAF./British Antarctic Survey scheme
2. Britten Norman Islander, in FICTIONAL RAF./British Antarctic Survey scheme

With thanks to Geoff B. for the scheme suggestion and Joe Warner Cherrie for research, detail and encouragement
Title: Re: New Aircraft Profiles, please give me your opinion
Post by: Logan Hartke on July 11, 2017, 10:50:37 PM
Thanks for your advice and comments so far.  I appreciate the feedback, Logan, thank you for the tips, I take it that it's illustrator you use?  Is it gradients or blends you used on the profiles?

I actually use Photoshop at very high resolutions. I use gradients and layers very heavily.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: New Aircraft Profiles, please give me your opinion
Post by: john_matthews129 on July 17, 2017, 11:02:37 AM
I really enjoyed looking at your profile work!  They looked great!  Did you say you had just begin creating them?  They look quite good for first efforts.

 :)
Title: Re: New Aircraft Profiles, please give me your opinion
Post by: elmayerle on July 17, 2017, 11:29:46 AM
Beautiful work, I'm looking forward to more.  Given that there's not much market for them, I assume that the British LC-130's got their skis from the same place the USN LC-130's get theirs, correct?
Title: Re: New Aircraft Profiles, please give me your opinion
Post by: Chickadee on July 17, 2017, 05:07:51 PM
Beautiful work, I'm looking forward to more.  Given that there's not much market for them, I assume that the British LC-130's got their skis from the same place the USN LC-130's get theirs, correct?

Thank you !!
Yes , was thinking specially modified speculative RAF. C.130K, winterised and fitted with LC.130 type skis, either at source with Lockheed as per LC.130 or even converted by Marshalls at Cambridge? (thanks to JWC for the info!!), note the serial number shown is an unallocated number at end of the RAF. C.130 block - (XV224, 225 spare) XV226 being start of the Nimrod block.
KM


Title: Chickadee's LTV XC142 Cherries - Hypothetical Profiles
Post by: Chickadee on July 17, 2017, 05:43:52 PM
1. LTV. XC.142 'demonstrator' in US. prototype markings
2. LTV. (Short) XC.142 'demonstrator' in FICTIONAL RAF. markings and 'Class B' registration
3. LTV. (Short) XC.142 'demonstrator' in FICTIONAL pseudo transport scheme
4. LTV. (Short) XC.142 'demonstrator' in FICTIONAL pseudo transport scheme

Colour schemes depicted are that of the LTV. XC.142 prototype, the same aircraft HYPOTHETICALLY refinished with RAF. roundels and demonstrator serial, a blue stripe being added to make it look more in keeping with RAF. transports, then losing the high visibility panels. The two camouflage schemes shown (based on the Avro Andover) depict 'Near East' and 'European' theatres. The serial prefix 'G-14' shown is a 'Class B' company registration denoting Short's Aircraft. The company promoted the LTV. C.142 for possible RAF. use circa 1970. (JWC)


With thanks to Joe Warner Cherrie for his research, help and encouragement

Title: Chickadee's LTV XC142 Cherries - Hypothetical Profiles
Post by: Chickadee on July 17, 2017, 06:01:07 PM
1. LTV. (Short) XC.142 'demonstrator' in FICTIONAL 'near east' scheme
2. LTV. (Short) XC.142 'demonstrator' in FICTIONAL RAF. camouflage scheme


Colour schemes depicted are that of the LTV. XC.142 prototype, the same aircraft HYPOTHETICALLY refinished with RAF. roundels and demonstrator serial, a blue stripe being added to make it look more in keeping with RAF. transports, then losing the high visibility panels. The two camouflage schemes shown (based on the Avro Andover) depict 'Near East' and 'European' theatres. The serial prefix 'G-14' shown is a 'Class B' company registration denoting Short's Aircraft. The company promoted the LTV. C.142 for possible RAF. use circa 1970. (JWC)
Title: Re: New Aircraft Profiles, please give me your opinion
Post by: Chickadee on July 17, 2017, 06:07:40 PM
I really enjoyed looking at your profile work!  They looked great!  Did you say you had just begin creating them?  They look quite good for first efforts.

 :)

Hi John, thank you - yes, I've just started doing the profiles recently, I use Illustrator regularly for other things but not that much for illustration, it's a real learning curve.  Hopefully as I get more proficient you'll see a much more accurate and smoother profile. 
Title: Re: New Aircraft Profiles, please give me your opinion
Post by: john_matthews129 on July 17, 2017, 09:27:02 PM

[/quote]Hi John, thank you - yes, I've just started doing the profiles recently, I use Illustrator regularly for other things but not that much for illustration, it's a real learning curve.  Hopefully as I get more proficient you'll see a much more accurate and smoother profile.
[/quote]

Well, they're looking great.  Nice profiles of the XC-142 also. 
Title: Re: New Aircraft Profiles, please give me your opinion
Post by: elmayerle on July 17, 2017, 11:50:17 PM
Beautiful work, I'm looking forward to more.  Given that there's not much market for them, I assume that the British LC-130's got their skis from the same place the USN LC-130's get theirs, correct?

Thank you !!
Yes , was thinking specially modified speculative RAF. C.130K, winterised and fitted with LC.130 type skis, either at source with Lockheed as per LC.130 or even converted by Marshalls at Cambridge? (thanks to JWC for the info!!), note the serial number shown is an unallocated number at end of the RAF. C.130 block - (XV224, 225 spare) XV226 being start of the Nimrod block.
KM
Actually, to the best of my knowledge, the LC-130 skis are sub-contracted out and built by what was CTAS, now part of L-3 Integrated Systems, in Waco, TX (not likely they'll get much snow there, at least most years).
Title: Re: Chickadee's Hypothetical Profile Musings
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 18, 2017, 02:30:47 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Chickadee's Hypothetical Profile Musings
Post by: tsrjoe on July 12, 2018, 05:50:08 AM
A3 profile print of Scott Furlong Predator ... https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/A3-Print-of-Scott-Furlong-Aircraft-Profile-from-TV-series-The-Plane-Makers/183320608005?_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1
Title: Re: Chickadee's Hypothetical Profile Musings
Post by: tsrjoe on July 12, 2018, 05:51:14 AM
https://m.facebook.com/groups/424714227697738?view=permalink&id=846617005507456 (https://m.facebook.com/groups/424714227697738?view=permalink&id=846617005507456)

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=oa.846616995507457&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=oa.846616995507457&type=3)
Title: Re: New Aircraft Profiles, please give me your opinion
Post by: Geist on July 13, 2018, 08:47:02 PM
 ;) - It is great to look back and check out how we improved our work ;)
Nice work!

Great start! When I was first starting off, there was a mistake that I was making that took me a little while to correct. The lighting on the tail needs to be completely different than lighting on a fuselage, because the tail is so thin. The best way someone described it to me when I was doing the lighting was that it looked like someone had stuck a straw in the tail like a Capri Sun packet and inflated it. Here's an example of what I'm talking about:

([url]http://pre07.deviantart.net/51ce/th/pre/f/2013/092/7/1/japanese_hitachi_a9he1_herman__heinkel_he_100__by_comradeloganov-d609ezj.png[/url]) ([url]http://comradeloganov.deviantart.com/art/Japanese-Hitachi-A9He1-Herman-Heinkel-He-100-363236383[/url])

Look at the tail. This is an old, bad profile with an inflat-o-tail. Whereas...

([url]http://pre00.deviantart.net/db09/th/pre/f/2014/240/6/e/nakajima_a9he1_n_wade_floatplane___aleutians_by_comradeloganov-d7x2dfe.png[/url]) ([url]http://comradeloganov.deviantart.com/art/Nakajima-A9He1-N-Wade-Floatplane-Aleutians-478801274[/url])

...this one has a much slimmer "blade" tail.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Chickadee's Hypothetical Profile Musings
Post by: Chickadee on October 12, 2018, 08:11:14 AM
A selection of Westland WG.11's...

Westland WG.11 Westonian in FICTIONAL Royal Navy Admirals Barge 'oxford blue' scheme

Westland WG.11 Westonian in SPECULATIVE RAF. 'NEAF.' scheme

Westland WG.11 Westonian ASW. variant in FICTIONAL Royal Navy (CVA.01 HMS. Queen Elizabeth) 'yellowtop' scheme

Westland WG.11 Westonian in FICTIONAL Royal Navy 'Rescue' (# '66', capsule pickup) scheme with Gemini type test capsule
Title: Re: Chickadee's Hypothetical Profile Musings
Post by: Chickadee on October 12, 2018, 08:18:06 AM
A couple of Sebel Jetex Lynx profiles for Spot On Designs

FICTIONAL Sebel Jetex Lynx in circa mid 1950's RAF. training scheme

FICTIONAL Sebel Jetex Lynx in circa mid 1960's Royal Navy training scheme

Title: Re: Chickadee's Hypothetical Profile Musings
Post by: apophenia on October 13, 2018, 06:35:59 AM
Love the WG.11s (good name too)!
Title: Re: Chickadee's Hypothetical Profile Musings
Post by: Chickadee on October 13, 2018, 08:43:03 AM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Chickadee's Hypothetical Profile Musings
Post by: Brian da Basher on October 15, 2018, 07:06:39 AM
I've always had a soft-spot for twin-rotor birds and your Westlands are especially nice!

Brian da Basher