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Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« on: April 14, 2012, 06:26:45 AM »
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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2012, 06:27:14 AM »
To start with, how about an Israeli F-106?

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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2012, 06:58:12 AM »
I've done 20 profiles of the F-106 over the years, including 2 IDF examples.

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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2012, 07:09:19 AM »
I've done 20 profiles of the F-106 over the years, including 2 IDF examples.

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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2012, 07:18:56 AM »
The AIR-2 Genie capability would make any such sale politically sensitive... but if the weapons bay could be modified to be non-Genie capable? Why not?
 
IIAF would make a nice bird (same issues as above), a precursor to the F-14 as an interceptor.
 
Of course, a CF-106 (powered by the PS-13 Iroquois) would be a natural. :)
 
The ultimate 'Six' might be found by adding diverterless intakes, putting a modern engine into the bay, upgrading the avionics/cockpit, adding a modern IRST system and fitting the weapons bay for AMRAAM. She wouldn't dogfight, but as an interceptor she would be as good today as she was in 1970.

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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2012, 07:22:47 AM »
Here's the two Israeli examples along with one of the 'developed' variants suggested by Kendra:





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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2012, 04:20:28 AM »
Nice John.
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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2012, 04:21:39 AM »
Some more real world inspiration perhaps:

Agressor Proposal:


ASAT trials:

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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2012, 04:23:14 AM »
A few more operator suggestions:

Taiwan
Japan
South Korea
West Germany
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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2012, 06:28:07 AM »
The F-106 Detail in Scale book has some nice info on proposed radar upgrades  Combine one of those with a modern IRST and an upgraded powerplant (either a later J75 variant or an Iroquois) and the "Porject Six-Shooter" package (frameless canopy and M61 installation) for a still formidable interceptor, especially if the four Falcon racks remaining were replace by two racks for cropped-fin AIM-120 variants.

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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2012, 06:49:00 AM »
NJANG Six Shooter cockpit area with the frameless hood, IRST and front end of the M61 tub visible. Sorry for the grainy photo... air-to-air through a really dirty window. :) Atlantic coast off Atlantic City around 1986.

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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2012, 07:02:48 AM »
Some more real world inspiration perhaps:
ASAT trials:


Looks more like a Standard ARM AGM-78 to me.... ;)

Anyhoo, German & Japanese F-106s (& there were Finnish, RAF, Canadian & French ones as well).





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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2012, 07:15:50 AM »
Hmmm....
 
Using Project Spike as a starting point, but going a different way... F-106 EW Aggressor. Twin-tub 106 with the fin EW installation of a Raven and the weapons bay converted to use the space for EW gear and a chaff dispenser. Basically a parallel to the process that created the EF-101 that Canada leased (101067). The pylons let you carry pods, tanks or chaff tanks.

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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2012, 07:28:22 AM »
I made this out of an old Arii 1/144 F-106:


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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2012, 09:48:09 AM »
Some more real world inspiration perhaps:
ASAT trials:

Looks more like a Standard ARM AGM-78 to me.... ;)


In the '70s trials were done using a modified two stage Standard missile as an ASAT weapon.
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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2012, 09:52:17 AM »
Maybe they were, but that's still a 'standard'  ;D length AGM-78.

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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2012, 11:40:49 AM »
Maybe they were, but that's still a 'standard'  ;D length AGM-78.
I agree, whatever the final ASAT version might have looked like, this is a single-stage air-launched Standard airframe.  It could have been from the Brazos/AAARM testing.

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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2012, 12:49:21 PM »
I made this out of an old Arii 1/144 F-106:




That's sheer genius Frank :)

F-106 with Viggen wings and F-106X with same and canards

....and bubbletop canopy

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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2012, 12:49:57 PM »
Another option might be a strike/ground attack version with the weapons bay used for bombs.
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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2012, 12:54:19 PM »
Another option might be a strike/ground attack version with the weapons bay used for bombs.
Or use the bomb-carrying drop tanks as used by the Mirage III and V.  I could see one aircraft mounting th designator while the other aircraft in a flight carried LGBs internally and/or externally.

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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2012, 12:56:44 PM »
One version I've not seen mentioned here, though it was an actual Convair proposal, is the high-valued staff transport capable of carrying four passengers plus the pilot.  It's written up in the latest eAPR.  I've got a Revellogram 1/48 F-106 earmarked for that, using seats from a 1/48 business jet.

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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2012, 01:47:58 PM »
Another option might be a strike/ground attack version with the weapons bay used for bombs.

Or use the bomb-carrying drop tanks as used by the Mirage III and V.  I could see one aircraft mounting th designator while the other aircraft in a flight carried LGBs internally and/or externally.


Perhaps unsprisingly, I've done profiles of each:




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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2012, 02:09:01 PM »
The sound of the F-106 as it approached was music to my young ears back in the day.   We'd see them several times a week.  They were either 5th FIS out of Minot AFB or blue-shag carpet equipped MT-ANG 106's out of Great Falls.   
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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2012, 02:52:21 PM »
Rafael is right on  ---  That's sheer genius Frank  :)

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Re: Convair F-106 Delta Dart Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2012, 07:23:01 AM »
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