Author Topic: M3 Lee/Grant and M4 Sherman Family of Vehicles  (Read 98080 times)

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Re: M3 Lee/Grant and M4 Sherman Family of Vehicles
« Reply #200 on: July 14, 2021, 05:49:21 PM »
As Wombat said it was for both, it needed to be lightened to fit the M10 hull & the TD board love their open topped tanks anyway...

Interest in the design didn't last that long & it was canceled in favor of the M18 Hellcat.

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Re: M3 Lee/Grant and M4 Sherman Family of Vehicles
« Reply #201 on: July 15, 2021, 03:48:56 AM »


To install this french 105mm gun in some other WWII turrets could be a good Idea IMO.

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Re: M3 Lee/Grant and M4 Sherman Family of Vehicles
« Reply #202 on: August 06, 2021, 01:28:04 AM »
May be too tall, but, why not?


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Re: M3 Lee/Grant and M4 Sherman Family of Vehicles
« Reply #203 on: December 02, 2021, 11:10:29 AM »
Diorama potential

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Re: M3 Lee/Grant and M4 Sherman Family of Vehicles
« Reply #204 on: December 03, 2021, 02:04:34 AM »
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Re: M3 Lee/Grant and M4 Sherman Family of Vehicles
« Reply #205 on: February 04, 2022, 08:06:09 AM »
Carcas of a Sherman used to move sand at the mine near Oranjemund, Namibia. Owned by Namdeb, vehicles can enter the mine property but never ever leave. 

An ingenious idea followed the second World War, with the introduction of ex-military surplus
Sherman tanks to be used as tractors. The Sherman's eventually replaced the mules and soon
after were converted into platforms for stackers which were used in conjunction with small
bucket excavators. Dumping into mined-out areas became a successful methodology following
the use of this system.

https://www.saimm.co.za/Conferences/DiamondsSourceToUse2003/007-Badenhorst.pdf

Rambling Grandpa Simpson style reminiscence about these things

refitting the tanks consisted of installing a 60 horse squirrel cage motor and switchgear, and a small solenoid operated hydraulic brake system that acted on the drive shaft. All driven from a single external wheel system mounted on one side of the tank plus emergency stops on both sides. the wheel accessed single and double track drive as required so that the tank could be steered. The very effective braking unit operated on the dead man system i.e if the operator's hand was removed from the control wheel the tank stopped. It was virtually idiot-proof and I never recall even the most raw recruit ever making a mistake with that system. While all that was going on the fitters mounted a swivelling conveyor belt stacking system on top. The whole was designed in-house, creating a very economical way of equipping the mines in the postwar years when imported machinery was impossible to access. No idea who the brain was behind it but he certainly deserved kudos. Most things were done on that basis in those days. I recall resurrecting ancient Siemens Schucker AC motors with brush rings and lead bearings and putting them into service when all else failed. I think most sparkies today would look askance if asked to pour a lead bearing, scrape it to tolerance and refit it to a motor that dated back to the days of Augustus Stauch. There must be dozens of them still lying around in the desert, particularly in G area. These tanks were still in use as stackers when I left in '67 so they must have been scrapped later than that. 

 
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Re: M3 Lee/Grant and M4 Sherman Family of Vehicles
« Reply #206 on: March 21, 2022, 10:27:04 PM »
Phoney Baloney Neubaufahrzeug built on a Lee tank for training purposes, as seen in this film.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taHFUKKKmJM





Oddly enough, all of the filming only captures the tank's right side. Here's a left side, in case your imagination needs it.


He'll tell you all about 'em - he's a tanker, he should know.
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Re: M3 Lee/Grant and M4 Sherman Family of Vehicles
« Reply #207 on: September 16, 2022, 08:36:28 PM »
Look at the Sherman turrets, left and right of frame.



A Surrendered Schwimmwagen Kfz1 Type 166 (WH 1641890) and a BMW 75 Motor bike & side car with other vehicles of the 278. Infanterie Division (Wehrmacht) at the Brenner Pass, on the Italian - Austrian Border. May 1945.

(The 278 I.Division emblem was a black figure of a Pomeranian Grenadier holding a musket bordered by a shield)

The 278.ID were manning defence fortifications near the Brenner Pass. It surrendered to the 5th and 7th US Armies in May 1945.
It was originally assigned to LXXVI Panzer Corps defending the Gothic Line,and after heavy losses the 278th was formed into a Volksgrenadier Division in early 1945.

It was later transferred to 1.Fallschirmjäger, defending the Brenner Pass where most of the Division was encircled, the remainder later surrendered on the May 2, 1945

(Colourised by Richard James Molloy from the UK)

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Re: M3 Lee/Grant and M4 Sherman Family of Vehicles
« Reply #208 on: September 17, 2022, 01:25:35 AM »
Look at the Sherman turrets, left and right of frame.


What about them?
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Re: M3 Lee/Grant and M4 Sherman Family of Vehicles
« Reply #209 on: September 22, 2022, 03:03:14 AM »
Look at the Sherman turrets, left and right of frame.


What about them?

Welded bustle racks that resemble those on the later M48s, filled with soft armor (like sandbags)

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Re: M3 Lee/Grant and M4 Sherman Family of Vehicles
« Reply #210 on: October 28, 2022, 01:08:16 AM »
Went searching for a bigger resolution of the Sherman T6 as found on pg.1 of this thread.

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Re: M3 Lee/Grant and M4 Sherman Family of Vehicles
« Reply #211 on: December 04, 2022, 09:59:31 AM »
"Sherman 'Eyal' Observation Tank - the turret was removed and a hydraulic system was installed that is capable of raising an observation platform to a height of 27 meters/90 feet. It was commissioned by the IDF as a mobile observation along the Suez Canal during the War of Attrition until the Yom Kippur War"


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Distance to horizon calculator says 5km at eye level, about 6.8km standing on a tank and a whopping 21km from the platform. Neat!
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Re: M3 Lee/Grant and M4 Sherman Family of Vehicles
« Reply #212 on: December 04, 2022, 09:18:13 PM »
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Re: M3 Lee/Grant and M4 Sherman Family of Vehicles
« Reply #213 on: December 07, 2022, 07:24:21 AM »
IDF

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Re: M3 Lee/Grant and M4 Sherman Family of Vehicles
« Reply #214 on: March 28, 2023, 07:18:47 PM »
Diorama potential, particularly with forced perspective (1/72nd AIRFIX Bailey Bridge in background?)


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Re: M3 Lee/Grant and M4 Sherman Family of Vehicles
« Reply #215 on: November 09, 2023, 02:42:46 AM »
Still in service today:



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Edit: Link fixed - CA
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Re: M3 Lee/Grant and M4 Sherman Family of Vehicles
« Reply #216 on: February 20, 2024, 08:39:06 AM »
'Interim Ram' ... playing with the Canadian Ram tank timeline (using the MiniArt M3 Lee box-art as my basis).

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Re: M3 Lee/Grant and M4 Sherman Family of Vehicles
« Reply #217 on: February 20, 2024, 01:18:09 PM »
Those two guys look more like cops. Talk about militarizing the police!

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Re: M3 Lee/Grant and M4 Sherman Family of Vehicles
« Reply #218 on: February 21, 2024, 08:32:13 AM »
Those two guys look more like cops. Talk about militarizing the police!

Indeed. And that Sherman looks like it has been buffed up to a nice sheen. Hardly 'tactical'  ???

But, since Paraguay hasn't been involved in a foreign conflict since the 1932–35 Chaco War, I guess it is fair to describe the Fuerzas Armadas as primarily an internal paramilitary police force.  ;)
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Re: M3 Lee/Grant and M4 Sherman Family of Vehicles
« Reply #219 on: February 22, 2024, 01:50:19 AM »
Is that a different gun or does the picture angle make it look huge?

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Re: M3 Lee/Grant and M4 Sherman Family of Vehicles
« Reply #220 on: February 22, 2024, 02:50:59 AM »
Is that a different gun or does the picture angle make it look huge?

Yup, that's an Argentine copy of the French CN-105-57 gun. The vehicle is a 1977 ex-Argentinian Sherman Repotenciado - a diesel-engined Firefly rebuild. -- https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar-argentina-sherman-repotenciado/

According to Janes, these Sherman Repotenciados served (until 2018) with the REP (Regimiento Escolta Presidencial) alongside White M2s and M3 Stuarts. So, that explains the polished-up paintwork.
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