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Re: Universal Carrier (All Variations)
« Reply #75 on: June 24, 2021, 09:06:02 AM »
A T16 carrier would be better, with better mobility.

Maybe but I'm not sure if any kits are available.

Resicast do one.  It would however be a simple conversion using two Bren carriers...

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Re: Universal Carrier (All Variations)
« Reply #76 on: June 24, 2021, 01:17:01 PM »
I have wondered if a 6pdr casemate TD version would have been possible.  If so it would have been a beast.

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Re: Universal Carrier (All Variations)
« Reply #77 on: June 24, 2021, 03:30:47 PM »
I just noticed that they have a Boys anti-tank rifle... so they're planning to go up against a tank? Some pooping/sphincter tightening coming up!

Resicast make excellent kits of the Early Carrier versions that were used from 1934 and into 1940 by the BEF. Nearly all these carriers were left in France after Dunkirk.
There are two types
Scout Carrier - Boyes AT Rifle is part of the standard Fit


Machine gun carrier - carried the Bren and sometimes a Vickers


The Resicast site has some great photos of the kits from various angles, showing the differing fit out. These kits are so far the only ones in the game of the early version as far as I know and build up very nicely. Ask me how I know  ;)
The main difference is how the rear compartment is set up, the Armoured side swaps depending on the version. So you can see why the move to the Universal carrier version from 1940 made obvious sense.


A T16 carrier would be better, with better mobility.
Maybe but I'm not sure if any kits are available.
Could always consider the Loyd Carrier. Different role, different base vehicle, but sizeable enough. Bronco do one of them in 1/35
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Re: Universal Carrier (All Variations)
« Reply #78 on: June 25, 2021, 02:44:38 AM »
Resicast do one.  It would however be a simple conversion using two Bren carriers...

Fair enough:  https://www.resicast.com/products/kits/slideshow-45/index.html
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Re: Universal Carrier (All Variations)
« Reply #79 on: June 25, 2021, 02:58:11 AM »
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Re: Universal Carrier (All Variations)
« Reply #80 on: June 25, 2021, 03:08:01 AM »
I have wondered if a 6pdr casemate TD version would have been possible.  If so it would have been a beast.

Can't say I dislike the idea.
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Re: Universal Carrier (All Variations)
« Reply #81 on: June 25, 2021, 08:32:31 PM »


Wow, great find GTX
What a great utilisation of an otherwise obsolete vehicle - replace the older petrol engine with that of a diesel.....

P.S. what ATGM's are they? At first I thought they might have been 3M11 Fleyta's, but they aren't 🤔

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Re: Universal Carrier (All Variations)
« Reply #82 on: June 26, 2021, 02:32:13 AM »
The are Nord SS.10s.  It's an interesting one in many ways.  Supposedly in 1956, the Bundeswehr received a total of 300 Bren Universal carriers from Britain. Most of the delivered vehicles were produced by Ford Canada. The variants delivered were the Type No. 1 Mk.II, Type No. 1 Mk.II MMG, and Type No. 1 Mk.II 3" mortar.  The vehicles were initially used as reconnaissance and infantry-group support-vehicles, because of their speed and low silhouette, however, the Bundeswehr quickly started to instead use them for their original role again, as transport vehicles.  One was developed as an experimental carrier for seven SS.10 ATGM's as shown.

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Re: Universal Carrier (All Variations)
« Reply #83 on: June 26, 2021, 08:20:08 AM »
Would look interesting parked next to the Bell model 47 with four SS-10's that the US Army trialed.

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Re: Universal Carrier (All Variations)
« Reply #84 on: June 27, 2021, 01:17:51 AM »
Would look interesting parked next to the Bell model 47 with four SS-10's that the US Army trialed.

You sure it was 4?



Mind you, it could still be in German service:

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Re: Universal Carrier (All Variations)
« Reply #85 on: June 27, 2021, 03:54:17 PM »
The are Nord SS.10s.  It's an interesting one in many ways.  Supposedly in 1956, the Bundeswehr received a total of 300 Bren Universal carriers from Britain. Most of the delivered vehicles were produced by Ford Canada. The variants delivered were the Type No. 1 Mk.II, Type No. 1 Mk.II MMG, and Type No. 1 Mk.II 3" mortar.  The vehicles were initially used as reconnaissance and infantry-group support-vehicles, because of their speed and low silhouette, however, the Bundeswehr quickly started to instead use them for their original role again, as transport vehicles.  One was developed as an experimental carrier for seven SS.10 ATGM's as shown.



Thanks GTX, you know, I didn't even think of the SS.10....🤔

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Re: Universal Carrier (All Variations)
« Reply #86 on: June 28, 2021, 02:58:13 AM »
Would look interesting parked next to the Bell model 47 with four SS-10's that the US Army trialed.

You sure it was 4?



Mind you, it could still be in German service:


Yes, I've seen pictures of the US Army testbed.

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Re: Universal Carrier (All Variations)
« Reply #87 on: January 11, 2024, 08:59:08 PM »
Cardon Llyod suspension derision - where'd the left track and return roller go?


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Re: Universal Carrier (All Variations)
« Reply #88 on: January 12, 2024, 02:10:46 AM »
Don't you love the footwear. ;D
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Re: Universal Carrier (All Variations)
« Reply #89 on: January 12, 2024, 02:14:19 AM »
Don't you love the footwear. ;D

I'm partial to leather 'sports sandals' year-round.  ;)

See also https://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/3/t/163962.aspx

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Re: Universal Carrier (All Variations)
« Reply #90 on: January 13, 2024, 07:37:44 PM »
Don't you love the footwear. ;D

Caligae* (Latin)

Although only one appears to be wearing them, the other soldiers are wearing shoes & gaiters, the officer may be wearing boots & sand gaiters (to protect the boots).

Of course, if they're small sandals, they could be Caligulae (although why one would want more than one Caligula is anyone's guess). ;)




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Re: Universal Carrier (All Variations)
« Reply #91 on: January 14, 2024, 01:15:19 AM »
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